Fair Play at FIFA?

The following post comes about as a result of the research and work put in by Auldheid.

He has drafted the submission to FIFA detailed below after closely looking at their rules, and taking on board the points contained in the Glasnost “Golden Rule” blog. TSFM has attached the blog’s name to the report since the overwhelming – but not unanimous – view of our readership is that the SFA and the SPL have again gotten themselves into an almighty and embarrassingly amateur fankle over this issue.

We believe that tens of thousands of football fans will be lost to the game if the outcome of the LNS enquiry is not perceived to be commensurate with the scope and extent of the rule breaking that LNS found had taken place. In view of this, we believe that we have to do what we can to explore all possibilities for justice for those who love the game so much and yet are utterly disillusioned by recent events.

LNS is not being questioned here. He has found that RFC were guilty as charged by the SPL.

What is being questioned is the SFA’s crucial – and seemingly conflicted  – role in the LNS enquiry, as is the effectiveness of LNS’s recommended sanction as either a deterrent or an upholder of sporting integrity.

It came to our notice last week that FIFA have created a web site at

https://www.bkms-system.net/bkwebanon/report/clientInfo?cin=6fifa61&language=eng

that tells us that FIFA have implemented a regulatory framework which is intended to ensure that all statutory rules, rules of conduct and internal guidelines of FIFA are respected and complied with.

In support of that regulatory framework FIFA have set up the above site as a reporting mechanism by means of which inappropriate behaviour and infringements of the pertinent regulations may be reported.

FIFA say that their jurisdiction encompasses misconduct that (1) relates to match manipulation; (2) occurs in or affects more than one confederation, so that it cannot adequately be addressed by a single confederation; or (3) would ordinarily be addressed by a confederation or association, but, under the particular facts at issue, has not been or is unlikely to be dealt with appropriately at that level.

Discussions arising from the previous blog on TSFM, “Gilt Edged Justice”, which was published after Lord Nimmo Smith (LNS) ruled on the registration of Rangers players who had contractual side letters that were not disclosed to the SFA as part of their registration, suggest that there may be possible unfortunate consequences for football arising from the evidence presented by the SFA to the LNS enquiry that informed its findings on registration and consequent eligibility. There is also a question of the propriety of the SFA providing evidence on an issue which could have had a negative impact on them had it been found that they had failed to carrying out their registration duties with due rigour over a period of ten years when the existence of EBTs was known to officials within the SFA.

On the basis that the LNS findings require that registration rules be clarified by FIFA and rewritten globally if necessary to remove any ambiguity and under clause 3 above, this appears to be an issue that the FIFA should examine and that the SFA cannot address.

The following report has therefore been submitted by TSFM on behalf of its readers to FIFA drawing on the content and debate following the “Gilt Edged Justice” blog in respect of the possible footballing consequences of the LNS enquiry.

The hope is that by speaking for so many supporters, FIFA will give the TSFM submission some weight, but individuals are free of course to make their own points in their own way.  We await acknowledgement of the submission.

The report Submitted to FIFA is as follows;

This report was prepared on behalf of the 10,000-strong readership of The Scottish Football Monitor at https://scottishfootballmonitor.wordpress.com/
It is our belief that FIFA general rules of conduct were breached by the SFA and their employees in both creating and then advising The Lord Nimmo Smith (LNS) enquiry into the non disclosure of full payment information to the Scottish Football Association (SFA) by Rangers F.C during a period of player registration over 10 years from 2000.

We believe that although the issue has been addressed by the SFA the particular facts at issue suggest that it has not been dealt with appropriately and we therefore ask FIFA to investigate. The facts at issue are that the process and advice given failed to uphold sporting integrity, and that a conflict of interest was at play.

We believe the advice provided and the enquiry set up, where SFA both advised and is the appellant body, breaches not only the integrity the registration rules were intended to uphold, but also totally undermines the integrity of the SFA in breach of General Conduct rules 1, 2 and 4. (See below.)

1.  Firstly we believe that the advice supplied to LNS that an incorrectly registered player was eligible to play as long as the registration was accepted by the SFA however unwittingly, undermines the intent of the SPL/SFA rules on player registration and so undermines the integrity of football in three ways.

• It incentivises clubs to apply for a player to be registered even if they know that the conditions of registration are not satisfied, in the hope that the application will somehow ‘slip through the net’ and be granted anyway (in which case it will be valid until revoked).

• A club which discovers that it has made an error in its application is incentivized to say nothing and to ‘let sleeping dogs lie’ – because it would be in a better position by not confessing its mistake.

• And most importantly, it incentivises fraud.  By deliberately concealing relevant information, a club can ensure that a player who does not satisfy the registration conditions is treated as being eligible – and therefore allowed to play – for as long as a period as possible (potentially his entire spell with the club). Then, if the club is no longer around when the deception is finally discovered, imposing meaningful sanctions may be impossible.

2.   Secondly we believe the process followed was inappropriate due to a Conflict of Interest. Had the LNS enquiry not ruled on the basis of advice supplied by The SFA, they and those persons advising the LNS enquiry, could have been subjected to censure and the SFA to potential compensation claims had LNS found that the players were indeed ineligible to play and results then been annulled as was SFA practice when an ineligible player played.

3.  Finally we contend that a law should not be applied according to its literal meaning if to do so would lead to an absurdity or a manifest injustice or in this case loss of football integrity.
See http://glasnostandapairofstrikers.wordpress.com/2013/03/07/gilt-edged-justice/

4. We therefore ask FIFA to investigate both the process used and advice given to Lord Nimmo Smith to satisfy themselves that FIFA’s intentions with regard to upholding the integrity of football under FIFA rules have not been seriously damaged by the LNS findings and also to reassure Scottish football supporters that the integrity of our game has not been sacrificed by the very authority in whose care it has been placed to promote the short term cause of commercialism to the games long term detriment.

General Rules of Conduct (These are taken from the FIFA web site itself and can be found as part of completing the submission process)

1. Persons bound by this Code are expected to be aware of the importance of their duties and concomitant obligations and responsibilities.

2. Persons bound by this Code are obliged to respect all applicable laws and regulations as well as FIFA’s regulatory framework to the extent applicable to them.

3. N/A

4. Persons bound by this Code may not abuse their position in any way, especially to take advantage of their position for private aims or gains.

About SFM
The Scottish Football Monitor is following the lead of RangersTaxCase in an attempt to hold the Scottish mainstream media to account and to question. If they do not ask the difficult questions, we will.

4,058 Responses to Fair Play at FIFA?

  1. paulmac2 says:

    Brenda says:

    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 16:34

    Stevie BC
    Lol no his clothing is not on fire but he has stated that he has NOT discussed durrant and baldy with Charles! When pushed on that subject and asked if ‘they go will he go?’ he got all huffy and started rambling about winning 3spl titles a few cups and getting to a europa final in the last 5 years ???? Who cares answer the question man
    ……………………………………..

    Journo…”so Ally…if Kenny and Ian are asked to leave…will you do the honourable thing and leave also?”

    Ally….. “When zee seagulls follow zee trawler, it’s because they think sardines will be thrown in to the sea.”

    Journo…”oh right…al take that as a NAW then”

  2. paulmac2 says:

    yourhavingalaugh says:

    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 16:45

    Breaking News
    Cammy Bell has been enrolled on an Asbestos management course at Stow College.
    …………………………………………….

    With evening physiotherapy classes thrown in….

  3. paulmac2 says:

    Karma?

    Carntyne Riddrie (@Riddrie) says:

    jimlarkin says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 10:20

    BfDJ said on the ssb panel last night, [about whyte]
    “this is a man, who almost brought rangers to their knees”

    if you’re looking in DJ, actually, CW destroyed rangers – they went bust – ceased trading!!

    keevins’ response when he was asked abot the financial shinnanegans, said, something like
    . . .i’m not a financial correspondent” so i don’t know about financial markets and balance sheets…so i can’t comment…
    ==========================================================================

    It is astonishing how often Keevins protests he knows nothing about anything.

    How does he hold down a job which is 99% offering opinions, whilst admitting he knows very little about anything?

    …………………………….

    His knowledge of fitbaw is even worse…WTF is on that program?

  4. angus1983 says:

    Carntyne Riddrie (@Riddrie) says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 16:22

    Sigh. Just for you, Mr Riddrie … I hate Celtic. Happy now? Can we move on?
    ===========================================================

    Your replies show no sign that you wish to move on.
    ——

    Mr Riddrie. You have got it into your head that I have some kind of intense dislike for Celtic FC.

    I have told you that I don’t. Please find a thinner part of your skull through which to insert this information.

    If that’s not good enough for you, please feel free to continue to hold onto your belief, for I really feel no need to justify myself further to you.

    (I assume you support Celtic yourself, although your twitter account seems to be composed entirely of tweets about Rangers, so I may be wrong.)

    Thanks. Get your last word in if you must – I’ll be leaving this alone now. 🙂

    Apologies to everyone else for wasting your bandwidth with this nonsense.

  5. StevieBC says:

    Carntyne Riddrie (@Riddrie) says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 16:43

    It is astonishing how often Keevins protests he knows nothing about anything
    =============================================================

    Obviously, Keevins is being coached by Gordon Smith… 🙄

  6. paulmac2 says:

    With the state of affairs down govan way….I would not be the least surprised if I turned on my TV to check SKY sports and find…..Ally being interviewed at Craig Whyte Park (ex murray park) and in the distance pushing through a hedge a marksmans rifle…with the SKY camera beginning to wobble and shake as they run for cover leaving Ally standing in the middle of the pitch wondering why the SKY guys are running like the clappers…..shouting hide?

  7. smartie1947 says:

    Below is a post taken from RM this morning. Line 4 may give us a clue as to potential events on Thursday.!!!

    Posted Today, 09:43 AM

    We are a feck up bunch, I have read tons of threads about back room staff they are shite or not doing their jobs or what is their role. Personally I don’t think it would be a bad idea to change the scouting system etc back room and assistances to Ally. Fresh set of ideas, different look on things with new blood. Ally need to learn to become shroud as a Manager as he will need to make decisions some people wont like you cant be m8s with everyone as the Manager

  8. paulmac2 says:

    Carntyne Riddrie (@Riddrie) says:

    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 16:43
    ………………………………………..

    I’m actually begining to think Keevins is the MSM’s version of Father Jack….A***….Fek….Drink!

  9. MikeC says:

    Just seen the Celtic games post split …….
    3 away games and 2 home, that is not a problem ,however all games bar 1 are on a Sunday with a 12-45 KO. the other game on a Saturday, is at home with a 12-15 start.
    No wonder the fans are leaving the game in droves, they seems to be the last people considered when the powers that be organise the fixtures. Season books will be down again this year, who in their right minds would purchase one when the day of the week and the timing of the games are dictated by T.V

    Chairmen please note …. FAN WE SHOULD LET THEM KNOW WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH THEIR SBs

  10. paulmac2 says:

    smartie1947 says:

    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 17:06
    ……………………..

    Become a shroud?….white bedsheets with 2 holes cut out for eyes…Alabama 1930’s style…

  11. paulmac2 says:

    angus1983 says:

    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 16:59

    Carntyne Riddrie (@Riddrie) says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 16:22

    Sigh. Just for you, Mr Riddrie … I hate Celtic. Happy now? Can we move on?
    ===========================================================

    Your replies show no sign that you wish to move on.
    ———————–

    Apologies to everyone else for wasting your bandwidth with this nonsense.
    —————————

    Now worries Angus….now how long have had this hatred and was it caused by a lack of day light hours in the long winter nights up North? 🙂

  12. Brenda says:

    SSB worth a wee listen tonight frankiebhoy’s on 🙂 he asked the burning question about ownership of ibrokes/Murray park a few weeks ago and got laughed at (albeit a kinda nervous laugh from the ‘panel’) deflect and deny Dalziel on too should be entertaining:)

  13. smartie1947 says:

    paulmac2 says:

    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 17:10

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    smartie1947 says:

    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 17:06
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    Become a shroud?….white bedsheets with 2 holes cut out for eyes…Alabama 1930′s style…

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    Either that or a dead man walking.

  14. wottpi says:

    Think people are all getting a bit carried away with ‘Big News on Thursday’ thing.

    T’Rangers are still a bit away from Administration unless they have been handing out the IPO cash like sweeties and dealing with ‘internal debt’.

    From what I see they have enough cash in the bank to get through to next season running in a similar fashion to just now.

    The axe Green is welding is just trying to but them more time to juggle the finances before they get some cash from season tickets and from the orange strips going on sale.

    What they won’t have is £10m to give to Ally and £9m to spend on Ibrox or other millions to give to JT for new media/communication systems, or setting up world wide academies etc etc.

    Unless Charles and his mates have been squirrelling away the IPO money for their get away then I can see a fairly competent but uninspiring team playing in Div 2 next season. Possibly led by a cheaper but battle weary lower league campaigner.

    Thursday could just bring some more bluff and bluster from Charles but nobody should be surprised by its content.

  15. Araminta Moonbeam QC says:

    Two things;

    1) TRFC are takin cash on the gate for the Linfield game now (I’ll bet)

    2) Scotland Tonight going with an admission by Chas that he has taken money from ‘an associate’ of Craig Whyte.

  16. StevieBC says:

    I think McCoist has been spending too much time in Charlie’s company…

    =====================
    McCoist quote ;

    “…I understand people have to ask questions and it would be hypocritical of me not to give the best answers I can.
    “I’ll always tell the truth and the fans need to know what is going on. They need to know absolutely everything. I’ll tell them all I can and I certainly won’t keep them in the dark.”

    ======================

    http://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/item/3703-our-relationship-is-fine

  17. tomtomaswell says:

    STV reporting that Charles has admitted to “receiving money from an associate of Craig Whyte” Interview coming up

  18. tomtomaswell says:

    Sorry, should have F5’d before I posted

  19. Araminta Moonbeam QC says:

    Looks like its unravelling nicely at Ibrokes. They were warned…

    In other news, sympathies to Pars fans. A bleak day. G Masterton strikes again.

  20. scapaflow14 says:

    tomtomaswell says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 17:50

    Stage call for Mr Early, final positions please?

  21. Araminta Moonbeam QC says:

    STV have Green on tape asking the MBB for money. Goodnight Vienna…

  22. tomtomaswell says:

    After that interview I’d say Charles is dead man walking.

  23. Araminta Moonbeam QC says:

    Anyone at Glasgow airport tonight? Want to keep an eye out for a departing Yorkshireman?

  24. tomtomaswell says:

    £25k cheque received from Liberty Capital.

  25. bangordub says:

    Have the North Koreans become involved? I smell something Nuclear

  26. Araminta Moonbeam QC says:

    THIS is what Bomber knew…

  27. His claims about Man United and Dallas Cowboys also being challenged on STV.

    Coup d’etat?

  28. pau1mart1n says:

    that banstead bung came in very handy.
    & still change left over too.
    kerching.

  29. From football365.com about Dunfermlne:

    “The SFL enforced the immediate points deduction following a board meeting on Tuesday.

    The penalty puts the Irn-Bru First Division side into ninth place, below Cowdenbeath in the relegation play-off spot.

    The SFL also imposed a transfer embargo which prohibits the club signing players aged over 21 until they come out of administration.

    Dunfermline will also be subject to a further 10-point penalty and be required to pay a £150,000 guarantee if they do not secure a Company Voluntary Arrangement by the start of next season.

    A statement from the league read: “The Scottish Football League regrets the current situation that Dunfermline Athletic FC finds itself in.

    “We are fully aware of the impact this situation has had on all concerned, especially players, staff and fans of the club.

    “The SFL has a duty to protect the integrity and on-going smooth-running of the league and therefore following a thorough process, the SFL board has decided that Dunfermline Athletic Football Club Limited is guilty of conduct contrary to league rules, the interests of the league and its member clubs.”

  30. ecobhoy says:

    I think we should all calm down because the Bears have been promised two of the biggest screens in the UK to replace the old ones so that should keep them happy watching Green’s life story.

    And think of all that money that was going to be spent filling in the corners and increasing capacity which can now be saved.

    Things, like Green, are looking-up down Ibrox way. They might even get a glimpse of the nuke before it hits.

    But seriously there is no way this can continue – the silence on the Darkside is ominous. And to think it was STV that savaged the hand that had been feeding it all that bilge. Charles must wonder what has gone wrong. The Scots truly are revolting but the MSM aren’t doing this unless they know what coming next – we can be sure of that.

  31. myohmy1 says:

    Sally “we’ve received hundreds and hundreds of texts from well wishes from people down south,people in America,people in Australia,people in Europe,ever one of them saying congratulations but there’ve no’ been too many congratulations coming from anywhere up this side of the country”.
    Now I wonder why that is?

  32. ecobhoy says:

    paulsatim says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 18:35
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    It’s all very well questioning him about Manchester Utd and Dallas Cowboys but the real question is what school did he go to? It’s not a trick question but I just want to check his claims about still holding the school sprint records from approx 1968.

    Even if the school was closed the week after he left or burnt down before the next annual sports day he is still entitled to his cups and medals and we should all fight to ensure he retains his history. In fact possibly LNS could be called-in to assist.

  33. C. Young on BBC tonight: “Ally McCoist knows where the bodies are buried…”

  34. ecobhoy says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 18:30
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    …. And to think it was STV that savaged the hand that had been feeding it all that bilge. Charles must wonder what has gone wrong. The Scots truly are revolting but the MSM aren’t doing this unless they know what coming next – we can be sure of that.
    ———–

    Just how many boycotts is it possible to handle at one time? On current form, The Sun, Record and STV are about to go the way of the Beeb. All that’ll be left is SSB broadcasting stories of victory, Scottish football will die without, the same club, et cetera – and Keys & Grey, of course.

  35. Galling fiver says:

    £11M to win the bottom tier. Get the coffee smelt Ally.

  36. myohmy1 says:

    Spiers-McCoist like a Kissinger figure……Whit?

  37. myohmy1 says:

    Spiers- McCoist like a Kissinger figure! Am I missing something here?

  38. Lord Wobbly says:

    From RM:

    Rfc52
    Today, 05:37 PM
    Colonel Walter E. Kurtz, on 09 April 2013 – 05:34 PM, said:
    We know there had to be some dealings with Whyte for CG to
    take over, Green has admitted as much
    Looks like STV may have turned against Rangers now too, I find
    that quite sad
    Desperate broadcasting and as Chef stated, has Whyte actually
    started proceedings?
    ———————–
    Once again
    A spokesman for Rangers confirmed that there had been a
    transfer of assets between one newco and a second separate
    newco. He told STV: “For the avoidance of doubt, Sevco 5088
    Limited bought the assets of the Rangers Football Club and then transferred them to Sevco Scotland Limited so that all the assets would be in the Scottish registered company that is Rangers FC.”
    That is from the time of the purchase of assets from the
    administration period.
    He then said yesterday sevco 5088 never owned nor purchased
    anything, so who is lying and why? Who is the person from
    rangers who released the original statement and why doesn’t
    green remember a statement of that importance?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Because he’s a straight-talking Yorkshireman? Or perhaps not…

  39. scapaflow14 says:

    myohmy1 says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 18:52

    Ibrox as Cambodia perhaps? This canonisation of Mr McCoist is getting silly

  40. “Showdown” meeting between McCoist and Green tomorrow. Will only one man re-emerge through the Golden Nugget Saloon’s swing doors?

  41. Andy says:

    ogmagaonghusa says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 18:50
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    C. Young on BBC tonight: “Ally McCoist knows where the bodies are buried…”
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    he really is a stuttering fool,who knows nothing and just talks nonsense most of the time whilst showing his support for all things sevco

    how does he get the job on radio scotland ?

  42. Galling fiver says:

    Sounds like man love.

  43. chipm0nk says:

    wottpi says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 17:35

    Here’s a thought, if Rangers are in debt to their own holding company can they place themselves in administration and try to agree a CVA with the holding company and pay them a reduced amount.

    Who else are they likely to owe money to, have they some line of credit with other businesses or institutions. How likely is it that they will owe anyone money, other than their owners.

  44. thomthethim says:

    Looks like Mc.Coist is being groomed as the one, true constant in the whole RFC, SEVCO,etc. saga.

    Meaning that when the runaway train eventually comes to a halt, with Mc.Coist still on board, the apostolic succession will be assured.

    Green is being measured for his demob suit, as per the plan.

    Like at Sheffield, his departure will be under a cloud, with bulging pockets, job done.

    Enter the real rangers men, who “understand ” the club, to be greeted by Ally the Hero, who didn’t walk away.

  45. bangordub says:

    Anybody on here with an ounce of psychology knowledge will notice CG’s eye contact as he is asked the key questions. watch again.
    http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/220759-charles-green-challenged-on-manchester-united-and-dallas-cowboys-claims/

  46. StevieBC says:

    bangordub says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 19:14

    Anybody on here with an ounce of psychology knowledge will notice CG’s eye contact as he is asked the key questions. watch again
    ================================

    Why didn’t they ask Charlie about the claimed Apple interest ?

    I thought ‘iBrox’ was in the bag… 🙄

    [That fairytale was rotten to the core.]

  47. monsieurbunny says:

    Andy says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 18:56
    ogmagaonghusa says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 18:50
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    C. Young on BBC tonight: “Ally McCoist knows where the bodies are buried…”
    ___
    he really is a stuttering fool,who knows nothing and just talks nonsense most of the time whilst showing his support for all things sevco

    how does he get the job on radio scotland ?
    =======================================

    Answer:
    he really is a stuttering fool,who knows nothing and just talks nonsense most of the time whilst showing his support for all things sevco

  48. paulmac2 says:

    chipm0nk says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 19:00
    ………………………………..

    There is a company in Asia that was owed 400k…has it been paid?

  49. wottpi says:

    The penny has finally dropped.

    A bear on SSB saying if Charles spouts any more nonesense or lies he will get chased out of town (with implication of something worse befalling the man).

    Great stuff

  50. Long Time Lurker says:

    STV now saying they have evidence that CG accepted £25,000 from an associate of TGEF in May 2012.

    http://local.stv.tv/glasgow/220791-charles-green-agreed-to-receive-25000-from-craig-whytes-associate/

    Getting more interesting.

  51. Long Time Lurker says:

    A hint of things to come [on Thursday]?

    Árd Macha‏@Ard_Macha6m
    The only authorities to deal with Rangers was HMRC based in London. The only people who will deal #Sevco now are the City of London police.

  52. valentinesclown says:

    Chic states “Ally knows were the bodies are hidden” Why does Ally not tell all the loyal fans that he feels sorry for. Who are those bodies we want to know, transparency. We just want the truth? In fact why does sainty Chic not say?

    Seems like Ally does not do talking away.

    Anyone think that Charlie reminds Ally daily of his famous line We do not do walking away.

  53. arabest1 says:

    monsieurbunny says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 16:23

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    arabest1 says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 14:14
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    First time surely. At least technically. Not sure if a spiritual entity can go into administrat

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    True mons, but I am trying to see things on their terms….not easy I know, it requires several theoretical and ontological somersaults! Not at all a problem for the admins of the Scottish game.

  54. Long Time Lurker says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 19:25
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    STV now saying they have evidence that CG accepted £25,000 from an associate of TGEF in May 2012.

    http://local.stv.tv/glasgow/220791-charles-green-agreed-to-receive-25000-from-craig-whytes-associate/

    Getting more interesting.
    ————

    Aye, but the cheque bounced, so it disnae count! That wiz a brammer 🙂

  55. paulmac2 says:

    Watched the STV interview…

    The most unconvincing…uncertain…try to think on yer feet…cobbled together…help I’m sinking…made up attempts at trying to throw answers back to avoid the obvious…your a liar me old son!

  56. StevieBC says:

    The – alleged – use of personal accounts of Charlie and Ahmad’s Mum, does make one wonder.

    A suspicious person might have serious concerns about how TRFC/the plc, manages corporate governance, or even Anti-Money Laundering legislation ?

    All very murky. Great stuff !

  57. scottc says:

    Lord Wobbly says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 18:56
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    From RM:

    “A spokesman for Rangers confirmed that there had been a
    transfer of assets between one newco and a second separate
    newco. He told STV: “For the avoidance of doubt, Sevco 5088
    Limited bought the assets of the Rangers Football Club and then transferred them to Sevco Scotland Limited so that all the assets would be in the Scottish registered company that is Rangers FC.”
    That is from the time of the purchase of assets from the
    administration period.
    He then said yesterday sevco 5088 never owned nor purchased
    anything, so who is lying and why? Who is the person from
    rangers who released the original statement and why doesn’t
    green remember a statement of that importance?”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    So that drops Duff and Phelps right back in it as the exclusivity agreement/’deal’ was with Sevco 5088. If they subsequently sold the goodies to a third party without offering them up to others then they should be in deep trouble with the legal people.

    Things seem to be accelerating here as the main antagonists forget what lies they have told to whom and when.

  58. Captain Haddock says:

    Dear Points of View,

    Why oh why did Charles Green even appear on STV to answer difficult questions……?

    Oh, and while I’m at it, when oh when will the scottish football authorities do anything about all of this?

  59. dukinfisgusted says:

    “Fit and proper” ……. Eh ?

  60. Andy says:

    PS: What about when Imran Ahmad told Rangers supporters talks with the Dallas Cowboys were going well?
    CG: Well they are. I’ve got an email now if you want to read it after this interview from Dallas Cowboys.
    PS: The Dallas Cowboys have previously told us there were no such talks.
    CG: I don’t care, Peter, what they’ve said. I’ve just told you categorically, in front of the camera, when this interview finishes, I will show you an email where we are invited to go to Dallas Cowboys. The email came in three days ago.
    So either believe me or not. If you don’t believe me, you’re entitled. But I’ll show you and then I want you, separately, to apologise on camera to say you were wrong about Dallas Cowboys, OK?

    So far, STV has not been shown the email from the Dallas Cowboys.

  61. Andy says:

    PS: Have you ever misled the supporters by telling them what they want to hear?
    CG: Never
    PS: Never?
    CG: Never
    PS: You are clear about that?
    CG: Yes
    PS: What about when you said Manchester United were in favour of Rangers moving to the Premiership? They’ve clearly stated they were against it.
    CG: The spokesman did.
    PS: So you told Rangers fans Man Utd were supportive of Rangers moving to the English Premiership. Manchester United say they are opposed to it.
    CG: So Sir Alex Ferguson wouldn’t like to see Rangers in his league? Who is Manchester United? You define Manchester United.
    PS: Who at Manchester United told you that you were wanted in the Premiership?
    CG: I’ve had discussions with a number of clubs.
    PS: Who at Manchester United told you that you were wanted in the Premiership?
    CG: Well… why do we want to know that?
    PS: I think there is evidence here that has been contradicted by Manchester United.
    CG: It’s been contradicted by a spokesperson from Manchester United.
    PS: So is that spokesman not speaking for the club?
    CG: My lawyers, who are advising on Rangers going into the UK, have been speaking to a number of clubs, representatives of clubs, to owners of clubs.
    I am absolutely very, very clear, from the discussions I’ve had with various people who are speaking to football clubs who would welcome Rangers to play in the English football league.
    PS: Can you tell us which clubs?
    CG: No. I don’t want to prejudice this club’s chance of playing in England by disclosing stuff prematurely.

  62. Danish Pastry says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 19:40

    Tell you what, CG looks completely deflated in that interview.

    I’m guessing he thought he was going to be in and out in 6 months and by the time everyone found out about whyte he’d be long gone and not giving a monkeys…….he’s been flying by the seat of his pants since the SPL turned them down. Looks like the plan is to get as much money out of the business before he’s run out of town…….I’d say he’s got about another week to grab as much as he can with those big hands of his.

  63. Long Time Lurker says:

    Regarding Walter Smith – am I right in thinking that he is currently a Director of Sevco?

    If it goes (.Y.) up e.g. administration – does that mean that he can play no part in a take over by anoher consortia – if one came about?

  64. Tic 6709 says:

    The baw is well and truly burst now,even the Rat Pack are turning on Yorkie.
    Wont be long now.

  65. Araminta Moonbeam QC says:

    Chris Graham’s gone a wee bit quiet on the Twitter – hasn’t posted since about, ooh, just before six. Hope he’s alright…

  66. Captain Haddock says:
    Tuesday, April 9, 2013 at 19:53
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    Dear Points of View,

    Why oh why did Charles Green even appear on STV to answer difficult questions……?

    Oh, and while I’m at it, when oh when will the scottish football authorities do anything about all of this?
    _____________

    I got the impression he was saying, in an almost Nixonesque way, “I’m not a crook.”

  67. rossjames10 says:

    Offering Prospectus as below, so quite clearly assets were in Sevco 5088 Ltd otherwise false statement to AIM.

    28. Related Party Transactions
    On 6 August 2012, Brian Stockbridge, a director of RFCL provided a loan of £50,000 to RFCL. No interest accrued on this balance which was repaid on 7 August 2012. Brian Stockbridge also received a payment of £30,000 for the period from 14 June 2014 to 31 August 2012 with respect to his consultancy services as a director.
    The following balances were novated from Sevco 5088 Limited (a company of which Charles Green was the sole shareholder and hence a related party) on 29 May 2012 to RFCL, hence the dates are before incorporation of RFCL:
    • On 11 May 2012, Imran Ahmad, a director of RFCL, provided a loan of £200,000. £178,000 was repaid on 15 August 2012 and £22,000 was converted into ordinary share capital of RFCL. Imran Ahmad also received an arrangement fee of £50,000 relating to this loan.
    • On 21 May 2012, Charles Green, a Director of RFCL provided a loan of £25,000. No interest accrued on this balance and this was repaid on 15 August 2012.

  68. bayviewgold says:

    you know that feeling you get at the top of the roller coaster as it starts to pick up speed, CG and the authorities are probably feeling that now 🙂

    BTW some great posts from a lot of people over the last few days – thank you!