A Roman God, a New Year, a Paycheque a Sports Jacket and that thing called football!

Guest Blog by Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan

Good Morning,

Can I start by wishing everyone who reads this blog a happy, peaceful and prosperous 2013.

In a few weeks’ time a couple of working class lads from Walsall and Wolverhampton will receive a reasonably sizeable cheque through the door. The money will be entirely expected and meticulously accounted for. A similar cheque will have arrived last year, and both will expect the process to repeat itself automatically this time next year.

The sum concerned will be sizeable—many thousands of pounds— and does not come from any insurance policy, institutional pension plan or other type of financially regulated investment. Further, in order to receive a similar amount next year, the two men will have to do precisely nothing! The money will simply come automatically!

Magic eh?

Well no—not really.

You see Neville and James ( for that is what they are called ) earned this money many years ago by completing a job of work, and they have been getting paid for the same job year in and year out ever since!

Except that you don’t know them as Nevile and James! No you may know them as Jim Lea ( who? you may say ) and Noddy Holder (aka Neville John Holder MBE ) the co author of that perennial Christmas classic “Merry Christmas Everybody”.

These two clever boys came up with their “pension” song by making a Christmas cracker out of tunes they had written and discarded in the past. Lea’s chords from years before provided the tune for the verses, while an earlier rejected composition of Holder’s became the chorus, and in this way it was the past work of both men that secured their future—even back in 1974!

As the song is played to death on Radio, in clubs, in pubs, in shops, on TV and everywhere else at Christmas, the New Year always brings a cheque of sizeable proportions for Messrs Lea and Holder.

However there were four members of Slade and not two, I hear you say!

Whilst that is correct, not every member of the band shares the royalties for ever more, with only the actual composers receiving the big bucks year on year — unless of course the gang of four agreed otherwise between themselves – as sometimes happens—but often doesn’t — in bands and other artistic collaborations!

And that, dear reader, neatly takes me to the current topic of the day on this here planet!!! The reconstruction, reorganisation and profit sharing in Scottish Fitba!!!

It strikes me that the SFA, SPL and SFL all want to come up with their own version of the pension song or product — Something that will make future performances interesting and lucrative for ever more without anyone having to put in too much effort in future.

Of course it is recognised that the clubs at the top of the financial tree have the greatest influence in composing this song, but there is an insistence, and so a desire, that even the minor band members should get a greater share of the royalties going forward.

All very honourable. All very interesting,— and all completely missing the point in my humble opinion.

Now, there is a clamour from the fans that the proposed structure of 12 – 12—18 is flawed and leads to daft consequences when worked through. We want 14- 14 – 14 say many fans or 16- 14 – 12 or some other composition altogether!!

Oh—and the fans want the chairmen to consult the fans before making a decision on anything, and they want Messrs Regan, Doncaster and Longmuir to stop telling fans that they need to be “educated” about what is best for the game!

All very noble! All very interesting, —and all completely missing the point once again in my humble opinion.

Jock Stein once famously proclaimed that football is nothing without fans— almost everyone knows that. Yet how many actually stop to consider those words and what he meant.

There is nothing without fans!!!!!

How many times have you heard commentators, journalists, ex players and even fans refer to the fans as “the paying customers” ?  This phrase has made its way into common parlance and is rarely- if ever- challenged or qualified.

So I will ask—is that what the football fan is prepared to be called—“The paying customer”?— is that it?

Are you, dear reader, a paying customer?—and nothing more?

Or is a football fan a “member of a club”—a “ supporter of a club” or even “part” of a club?

If you are just a paying customer does that mean that anyone who turns up at a ground and pays over some money on a solitary Saturday afternoon is to be seen in exactly the same way as the guy or gal who has been a season ticket holder for years and years?

Does the person who sits behind their keyboard and blogs and comments for Britain on matters football—but who never goes to a game or who does not spend a penny following or promoting their proclaimed club – have the same strength of voice as that season ticket holder—or even the guy who stumps up the cash to view a game once a year?

Not a chance in my view!!!

Equally though, if you have a Football Club Board who do nothing whatsoever to attract people into the club apart from throw out a team on a Saturday Afternoon with mixed degrees of success – are they worthy of support from the “paying customer” or anyone else for that matter?

In my view the answer is no— a very loud —NO!!!

If we are going to reconstruct Scottish Football then I am sorry you have to start by looking at exactly what it is you are trying to reconstruct—reconstruct being the appropriate and important word.

The job is to reconstruct—and regain— viable and important interest in Scottish Football and the teams—or clubs—who play in Scotland.

League reconstruction is only part of that process, and the redistribution of television money is only part of the league reconstruction part of the process!

The month of January is named after the Roman God Janus—who had two heads— one for looking forward and one for looking back. Janus was the God of transition—The God of change— and it was always clear that you could only have change going forward by casting an eye back to the past—to see what you wanted to keep from that past, to see what you wanted to jettison, and to see what could be learned from past times.

In the past , football crowds were far larger, revenues proportionally bigger and closer together when comparing clubs, and consequently it might be said that the football product was much better on the park—with various teams outwith the two big Glasgow teams—please do remember the Jags come from Glasgow too and that in the past Clyde and Third Lanark were also natives— competing for and winning trophies.

Nowadays, football clubs have lower attendances—unless of course one of the smaller teams ( I refuse to use the derogatory and well hackneyed phrase that is banded about re smaller Scottish Clubs ) gets to a Hampden final when low and behold anything between 20,000 and 30,000 lost football fans appear as if out of nowhere!!

And hey—if you happen to be a fan of the Ibrox Club or the Parkhead club—don’t go getting too comfy in your seat— where the hell were some of you before Seville or Manchester?

The point is that football is like politics — it all means nothing without participation— real participation. That means fans buying into, spending money on and in, and promoting their club at every opportunity. It means the clubs and their boards using every trick in the book to generate income away from the football pitch. A “Club” in law is no more than a collection of people coming together for a common purpose and a football club is perfectly capable of having genuine “club activity” which does not primarily involve football.

Where are the regional and local initiatives to promote the social aspects of football clubs? Do the facilities for women need upgrading to help persuade more mothers and girlfriends to come to the ground whether that be for games or other events or functions?

In a time of never ending football memorabilia, how many people went to their club shop this Christmas and bought merchandise for family and friends – even if the same family and friends support another club? How many people invite visitors or non football supporting friends to a game on a Saturday—even if it is only every now and then?

In short what do you do to support your club—and what can that club do to get more and more people involved in the club itself or its functions? And what functions could that club become involved in using existing facilities and resources?

Is there a kids club? A  weekday crèche? Are there facilities that are not used six days a week which could be used for community groups who have nothing to do with football—or even sport? Should the club hold daft things like race nights, bingo nights— functions that may well attract people who would no more likely  go to a football ground on a Saturday than suddenly develop Noddy Holder style sideburns?

How many people take an old shirt or T shirt or towel bearing the club colours on holiday to give to a waiter or a stranger or someone who has no connection with the club—with a view to creating a fan or someone with a bit of interest who might just one day become a season ticket holder or even an occasional “paying customer” at the door?

Further, are there folk out there who could actually go along and volunteer services for their club for nothing and so save the club from spending hard earned cash out of necessity? Could you be a gateman? Could you perform a task for your club on a voluntary basis?

You may think that a daft or utopian ideology but sports clubs traditionally always had a social purpose as well as a sporting one. Clubs were a focus for a locality, or a workforce, or a congregation or just about any group of people who want to come together for sporting or social purposes. Further those who volunteered their services for the common good often got great local recognition for their dedication and spirit.

Ask any Dons fan about Teddy Scott—who although a paid employee was Aberdeen FC through and through—pay or no pay!

The clamour for change in football should not be blinded by the words of the three official bodies and the more vocal chairmen of the clubs that want to play in the league – or not as the case may be. Change should come from the fans of the game up—but to be honest until the fans—or should I say the mysteriously disappearing armchair fans—actually come out and support their clubs a lot more often, then we are not going to see valuable and worthwhile change no matter what the league set up or composition.

On Saturday, I listened to Off The Ball on Radio Scotland where the contributors waxed lyrical about journalists of yesteryear who made the game and broadcasting interesting. Jimmy Sanderson, Bob Crampsey et al – they all got a mention.

The discussion sparked a memory for me when they came to discuss the legend that is Arthur Montford—famously referred to by Jock Stein as “ The Sportsjacket” with reference to his never ending collection of blazers.

Arthur was a journalist—both print and broadcast— with the BBC and then STV since 1957 in terms of television—and with the Evening Times and other papers in terms of the written press.

A lifelong follower of Morton and a keen Golfer and golf commentator, Arthur has been retired this many a year although he can still be seen walking up and down Byres Road occasionally. At one time he became Chairman of Morton and he used to write in the club programme on a regular basis—possibly still does! He is by all accounts a nice man—a good man— sufficiently good and of sufficient standing to have been elected as the Rector of Glasgow University in 1975—beating George Brown and Janey Buchan ( if you don’t know who they were then look them up! )— in the process.

He was the first sports journalist to hold that post.

In his Rectorial address Arthur went to great lengths to highlight what can be achieved if volunteers— individuals— club members if you like— put their shoulders to the wheel and strive for change, for a common purpose, and for society in general. He stressed that such communal effort brought about change—brought about improvement— brought about advancement in numerous situations. This was only three years after Jimmy Reid had used the same platform to denounce the “Rat Race” declaring “ I am not a rat!”.

For football to change in this country we need action—action by the fans—action by the clubs—action by the journalists and commentators to highlight initiatives and opportunities for our football clubs to play a greater part in our communities— from kids to pensioners, from toddlers to mums and dads, local residents to occasional visitors.

That is the way to make your voice heard and to make that voice count. That is the way to bring about the change that you want for the future.

There were four members of Slade—but only two wrote the words and music to Merry Christmas Everybody and it is they who earned the right to the pension royalties for ever more. The other two bit part players did not!

Janus was meant to oversee transition to the future by casting an eye on the past and learning from what went before—as should we when considering Scottish Football—and in that spirit you will find a link to the whole of Arthur Montford’s address below— there are things worth learning there.

Here’s to the future—-NOW—– its only just begun!



About Jim McGinley
Management Consultant/Legal Executive and lover of Music, Sport,People, laughing,good food, good wine, a decent pint, Good Cinema, a decent book or two, brilliant cities with brilliant pubs, Celtic Football Club, total nonsense and Cowboy boots!

524 Responses to A Roman God, a New Year, a Paycheque a Sports Jacket and that thing called football!

  1. gazpops says:

    TREATED like pariahs and not welcome in their own country. Rangers owe Scottish football nothing.

    So is it any wonder Ibrox chief executive Charles Green is now exploring a way out?

    My old club has become the black sheep of the Scottish game. They’ve been like a child in school, bullied from pillar to post.

    Eventually, that child wants to leave for a different school. Suddenly, it’s not a nice place to be.

    Apart from the clubs and officials in the Third Division, the rest of Scottish football has offered little in the way of support as the club attempts to recover from liquidation.

    For some reason, they are still being treated with hostility from people within the game. So it’s no surprise to me that Green is exploring other avenues in England. He’s entitled to do so.

    Anything the previous regime at Rangers did wrong is in the past – and that’s where it should have been left. The club took whatever punishments came its way – and the staff at Ibrox are still paying for it now.

    For the sake of the game, everyone should have wanted to move forward together. But that seems to be a problem for some. That notion couldn’t be further from their minds.

    Rangers are one of the most powerful clubs in the UK when you consider their fan base alone. That brings wealth to the game.

    But not being asked to sit around the table when the SFA, SPL and SFL met to discuss the reconstruction plans was yet another indication that they’re not wanted in Scotland.

    It was another slap in the face for the club and the supporters. It would appear they aren’t welcome in their own country, which is a sad state of affairs.

    Why should anyone stay somewhere they aren’t welcome?

    It’s time for Rangers to explore different possibilities and, certainly, the Conference in England is one of them. Green is right to consider his options.

    Like any club out there, they must look to better themselves at every opportunity. To become bigger and stronger.

    The only way to do that is to look at how they can improve on a commercial level – and that’s what Green is doing. England looks like the best avenue and it’s attractive to every club outwith that country.

    They have excellent organisation down there and, because of the quality of product, the marketing potential is huge. So Rangers are wise in exploring something new.

    Believe me, the majority of the Conference sides would welcome Rangers with open arms. They only need to look at how they’ve impacted on the Third Division.

    They will know all about the financial rewards Rangers and their supporters could bring to their clubs.

    And the Conference could offer Rangers a pathway to the top flight of English football.

    Green is clearly looking for an exit strategy, a way out of Scottish football, and I think he’s right to do it. He also appears confident that something can be done.

    And it could happen. There are obstacles to be overcome and we know these things don’t happen quickly. But if the Conference clubs are unanimous in wanting Rangers, that would be a start.

    Then you add Green’s will power and desire to make it happen. He’s clearly a man of action and when he wants something, he doesn’t hold back in trying to get it. He’s already proved that.

    It’s definitely a route worth investigating. In fact, it’s something Rangers should have looked at a long time ago.

    They should have been probing all the time but Green is the man yet again who is exploring it with some fervour. He’ll put wheels in motion and make the right calls to the right people.

    I would think the next step would be Green meeting up with Conference representatives and seeing how they feel about it. For the clubs down there, it would increase their revenues and have major spin-offs.

    I’m an Englishman but I’m only interested in the benefits it would bring to Rangers as a club. It would be a huge loss to Scottish football, no one can dispute that.

    I’ve heard people say that if Rangers and Celtic left, it could be the saviour of the Scottish game because the league would become more competitive.

    But when you take two massive, worldwide brands and institutions out of a country, it automatically makes it weaker. That would be the case, even outside of football.

    The Scottish game is famous for the Old Firm derby. That’s it.

    Outside of Scotland, all it is known for is Rangers v Celtic, not Hibs v Hearts or Aberdeen or any other clubs winning a trophy.

    It’s all about the Old Firm up here. And without it, there’s nothing left.


    File this under: a bad point, badly made.

  2. gazpops says:

    By Mr Hateley of course. Credit where it’s due…or sumfin like that.

  3. creepylurker says:

    While I would never tell any fan to stop supporting your team, I would suggest that if all the LNS enquiry come up with is a wee fine then cancel your sky sports package for good! Anything less than the 3-0 reversal for every game that had illegally registered players plus a punishment to go along with that and that’s what I’ll be doing. At least this way i will still support my team(going to games, t-shirt ect.) but I will still be punishing them in the long run for not standing up and doing the right thing in the first place by denying all Scottish football teams the money honeypot of Sky TV!

  4. Its not the packaging thats the issue ,its when you bite into whats inside the packaging that the bad taste is,get real Hateley.

  5. Flocculent Apoidea says:

    timabhouy says:
    Friday, January 18, 2013 at 23:14

    Hey h.p can you repost your deleted post on c.q.n ?

    Hey h.p can you repost your deleted post on every billboard in Scotland? Or even just ones round Cathcart/Mount Florida?

    Hateley’s piece! Gave up about a quarter of the way through – it was so deluded. Too easy to take it apart, I won’t bother. Did Jim Traynor write it for him?

    Alright, I’ve skimmed some of the rest of it and this line stands out, “…I’m only interested in the benefits it would bring to Rangers as a club.” Maybe he’s angling for a job at the SFA.

  6. Brenda says:

    Is Mark Hateley for real? He’d better watch he doesn’t trip over that petted lip 🙂 the DR sales should fall a bit further after that tosh…….. Even Shug Keevins disagreed with him lol

  7. bailemeanach says:

    Looks like Scotland doesn’t have a monopoly on lazy sports journalism


  8. creepylurker says:

    Don’t buy the Record, anyone got a link or can tell me what hateley said?

  9. bailemeanach says:

    creepylurker says:

    Posted above courtesy of gazpops

  10. Brenda says:


    Arem arem arem sorry no seriously going on about how sevco are being ‘bullied’ by Scottish football 🙂 see gazpops post @ 9:50 🙂

  11. pau1mart1n says:

    creepylurker says:Don’t buy the Record, anyone got a link or can tell me what hateley said?

    something about being treated like piranhas.

  12. angus1983 says:

    gazpops says:
    Saturday, January 19, 2013 at 09:50

    Hateley: “It would be a huge loss to Scottish football, no one can dispute that.”

    Over here, Mark! I’ll dispute it!

    I have a bottle of champagne that’s been sitting under the kitchen shelf for years. Should your old club go to England, I’ll finally open it.

  13. arabest1 says:

    finloch says:
    Saturday, January 19, 2013 at 09:06

    Great post fin, and timely….we need to refocus.

    Judging by the relentless hysteria coming from Govan over the last 6 months they are all bricking it ahead of LNS! Hateley’s drivel is just the latest. Well….. for any Sevconians looking in…..you’re all too late! Call them what you will (Sevco, Rangers, the Rangers, Rangers international, ra bherrs) the brand is now tainted and synonymous with malpractice, bad practice, financial chicanery, CHEATING, for future generations you are up there somewhere between, Lester Pigott, Lance Armstrong and Milli Vanilli. No amount of official gerrymandering, threats, or defiant displays will change this. The conduct of everyone associated with this club betrays the fact that underneath it all you know fine the rest of us are laughing (those with a sense of perspective at least)…..and there is no going back.

    Here’s a wee ditty to lighten the mood, the lyrics are somehow appropriate……..

  14. timtim says:

    Treated like messiahs and accomodated in their own country
    Rangers* owe Scottish football their very existence
    The spoiled brat that became teachers pet are tripping over their bottom lip
    If they want to go then let them amalgamate with Berwick and
    abscond to England ,thats your loophole Charles -go for it

  15. bailemeanach says:


    “as the club attempts to recover from liquidation”

    Explain this one to me Mark, I have all the time in the world..

  16. ismellafix says:

    Gazpops post at 9.50

    “I would think the next step would be Green meeting up with Conference representatives and seeing how they feel about it. For the clubs down there, it would increase their revenues and have major spin-offs.”

    If the “conference representatives” require The Rangers to pay a one off entry fee, put me down for a donation of £50 towards the cause.

    There’s no denying The Rangers currently have a huge support, but for how long? is the question. Based on what we know about the cost of running such a big operation, it’s going to be a long time, (I would estimate at least ten years) before they could even come close to seriously competing with Celtic, (even allowing for honest mistakes!). I would expect the attendances to gradually fall away and they will be lucky to be getting 20,000 gates in a couple of years time. If Charles Green is still at the helm and keeps to his promise to only spend 33% of income on player wages, the numbers could be even lower.

    The other thing I take issue with is the myth that The Rangers and their predecessors RFC bring a lot of money to other clubs. Yes they bring a lot of money into the game, but the vast majority of that money is spent on players wages and the running of Ibrox. While a few thousand away supporters coming to your ground from time to time, or an away cup draw at Ibrox is a welcome bonus to other clubs coffers, (especially smaller clubs), it is wholly wrong to use this an excuse for special treament.

    Judging by the Old Clubs trail of financial destruction over the last 3 decades and what we’ve witnessed from the new club since June, I honestly believe that Scottish Football would be better off without them. This is not from a “Rangers hater”, I have many good friends who have been Rangers supporters for many years. I used to really enjoy the banter and rivalry between the two clubs and looked forward to the regular contests between the two. However having considered all that has gone on behind closed doors, I have no desire to ever see a Rangers team play again.

    I have sympathy for their fans, although they have “had their moments” none of this financial demise can be laid at their feet. I also have sympathy for the man/woman in the street employees of this new club and would strongly suggest the have redundancy insurance in place. Again it’s not their fault.

    Saddest of all, I think there could have been a way out of this mess via one simple word, Truth. Had everyone involved with decisions regarding the New Rangers been honest and followed the rules, there could have been a way forward. Instead we’ve had the opposite and the closest we’ve had to truth has been silence.

    For me the “infection” that was RFC was removed from the Scottish Football body, unfortunately the surgeons performing the operation had their hands infected and forgot to wash them before transplanting the heart of the Old Club to the New Club, leaving the infection to grow within the new entity. So far the surgeons have not been struck off, but there’s always hope!

  17. smartbhoy says:

    Hateley is an imbecile. Won the French first division with Monaco and the rest of his honours came with the old Rangers. Quote
    “Outside of Scotland, all it is known for is Rangers v Celtic, not Hibs v Hearts or Aberdeen or any other clubs winning a trophy.

    Aberdeen 1983 ECWC/ European super cup.

    Dundee Utd CHEATED out of the 1984 European cup final

    Dundee Utd 1987 Uefa Cup Final

    Hibs European cups semis 50’s

    Dundee European cup semis 60’s

    Dunfermline Semis of ECWC 60’S

    Any many more clubs with QF stages of the European cup/ECWC/Eufa Cup.

    Get your coat on and jog on back to your own country with Green when( I wish they get in the conference) the time arises.

    You’re not welcome in our fair minded country you Kung Fu Lookalike dumbass

  18. wjohnston1 says:

    Lost a post there. Apologies if it pops up.
    Has anyone any idea where we are with the appeal against the FTT decision.
    Was leave to appeal given, who hears the appeal, is it heard in open session or behind closed doors, and how long does it normally take for a decision to be reached.

  19. Humble Pie says:

    What the FUQ ? – Frequently Unanswered Questions

    During the last 6 months here at The Scottish Football Monitor, we have developed a reputation for asking intelligent questions about those things in Scottish football that just don’t seem to add up. Despite posters on this blog and its predecessor RTC asking these same questions ad infinitum for well over a year now, a good many remain unanswered (or perhaps ignored and unasked) by those with the power to do so and there are now understandable signs of frustration and (dare I say) despondency being exhibited at the lack of response from the football authorities. In truth, there are still a lot of uncertainties and inconsistencies that need to be explored and resolved before any real progress can be made in our quest to improve the beautiful game in this country.

    In any normal society we could rely on the fourth estate to ask these probing questions on our behalf and to not rest until they were answered fully by those responsible (i.e. those whose job it is to respond to such questions). However, as we have observed over the past few years, most Scottish football journalists are either too lazy, too scared or too corrupted by bias or corporate kickbacks to bother with that old ‘seeking the truth and informing the citizens’ malarkey. As a result it has been left to us citizen bloggers to ask the pertinent questions, solicit appropriate answers, posit theories and opinions, cogitate and postulate potential remedies and dissect all official, superficial or accidental utterances from the usual suspects. (Take that Mr Grossman!)

    To be fair to the Scottish hack pack, they have, at least, now conceded that they are “probably best placed for analysis” of the issues, having already accepted that any new stories are most often first broken and broadcast in the blogosphere. Despite this haughty view of their presumed value being out-and out nonsense, at least they are beginning to realise that the fifth estate (that’s you and me by the way) is starting to seriously intrude on their presumed market share of the minds of Scottish football fans. It is also unfortunate that this ‘analysis’ for which they feel they are best placed doesn’t seem to go as far as actually asking difficult questions of anyone of any importance.

    This state of affairs has most likely been going on for a very long time, it’s just that we either didn’t notice it before or we didn’t have the luxury of Google and forums like this which allow us to analyse and verify or disprove the information we were being fed by the mainstream media. In order to counter this new found ‘voice of the people’ the MSM have come up with a number of little ‘tricks’ which help to keep many of us asleep, ‘onside’ and unquestioning of their authority and their honesty.

    One of these tricks is to generate what is called ‘Hyperattention’. To get this hyperattention, the MSM exclusively focuses on a single agreed narrative about an event or an issue which has the effect of marginalising other points of view that are equally valid, if not more so. In the early days of the Rangers saga it was all ‘we’ll lose the Sky contracts’, ‘Scotland needs a strong Rangers’ and ‘there is no vehicle for demotion to the SFL’ despite all these statements being questionable and at least up for debate. It appears that it is narratives, not facts and objective data, that now take center stage in the journalist’s world.

    Another tactic is simply to manufacture fake news with which to spark controversy and deflect from the real issues at hand. A classic example of this was in the autumn of 2011 when Scottish tabloids (one in particular) decided to concentrate on promulgating an irrational fear and hatred directed towards the Celtic manager, Neil Lennon. Whipping up unnecessary and dangerous hysteria while simultaneously deflecting from Rangers financial implosion and imminent demise. For weeks Neil Lennon was all anyone in the street talked about while on RTC posters were discussing Craig Whyte failing to keep up with Rangers’ PAYE and NI obligations.

    The MSM’s modus operandi is aimed at ‘manufacturing consent’ and has to be planned and organised at a strategic level. They are therefore likely to be beyond the ken of the likes of Messrs Traynor, Keevins, Jackson, Leckie et al. However, that doesn’t stop them from playing a significant role in this corporate conspiracy to encourage the incorrigible and dupe the deluded. At their level they simply have to write what they are told (or not write what they are told not to write as the case may be) and, in fairness, some of them are exceptionally good at that.

    One of the most simple strategies to get people to believe what you want them to believe (and which even the most worn out hacks can employ without direction) is a well- known and well-tested mind control technique of repeating the same mantra over and over again until it becomes accepted as truth in the eyes of the trusting public (think Craig Whyte, Armageddon, World Record Attendances and New Company/Old Club). Once these mantras have been firmly fixed in the minds of their intended victim there is little point in spending time and energy trying to persuade them otherwise. As Mark Twain noted “Never argue with an idiot, he will drag you down to his level then beat you with experience”.

    Journalists and editors who oversee the making of the news play much the same role as screenwriters in the filmmaking process. Their apparent power stems from the fact that the public tends to look at news as being ‘real,’ whereas they know that movies are totally fake. However, ‘news’ about Scottish football in general and The Rangers in particular is the farthest thing from being real.

    While these ‘public perception devices’ are being utilised more and more often these days, It is becoming apparent that some of our citizens are more susceptible to their influence than others. Sites like this one provide a vehicle for those of us who do not accept the ‘pre-approved’ view of events to air our opinions and resolve our concerns. We seek answers not because we have a latent mistrust of the authorities (though that would certainly be understandable given the way they have behaved) but because the alternative is to sanction wanton greed and corruption and to willingly accept lies as fact. For me, that is a path I have no desire to go down.

    In my humble opinion, it is important that we keep asking the awkward questions because we need answers and we need them soon otherwise a large number of intelligent fans could be lost to the game completely, allowing football to become the stronghold of the stupid, the gullible and the wilfully ignorant.

    But then again, I am just a semi-literate bampot, so what the FUQ would I know ?

  20. briggsbhoy says:

    ianagain says:
    Friday, January 18, 2013 at 23:22

    I understood what you meant.

  21. jimmicks75 says:


  22. ordinaryfan says:

    From now on, as a Celtic fan, I will now be adding all cheated Titles and Cups to our Trophy haul. All Celtic fans should simply do the same. If Sevco can claim 140 years worth of Trophies on a whim, and this is accepted as resonable and fair by the governing bodies and MSM, I am sure they will have no qualms whatsoever with Celtic simply taking the history of Trophies stolen and cheated by RFC over the past decade. No need for discussion, Celtic fans believe they are entitled to these Trophies and if that is good enough for Sevco it is good enough for us.

  23. nowoldandgrumpy says:

    Posted on Saturday, 19th January 2013 by Joe McHugh
    Conference clubs have no plans to discuss Sevco at their meeting on Monday.
    Charles Green’s presented the idea to his favourite radio presenters, Andy Gray and Richard Keys, who pushed the idea all week despite there being no mechanism for the move to take place.
    Ally McCoist and the usual subjects joined in the ‘debate’ but despite the hype it will be business as usual at Monday’s meeting.
    Dennis Strudwich, chief executive of the Conference said: “The reason that I know that Rangers joining the Conference is not on the agenda on Monday is because I organised the meeting myself.
    “It won’t be discussed. There is no letter from Rangers about this and no club has brought it up so I can guarantee it won’t be on the agenda.
    “The main reason that I want to shoot this down now is because this is a total lack of respect for the Scottish FA and the Scottish Football League to discuss one of their (associate) member clubs like this.
    “For us to even consider this would be extremely disrespectful to them and also to our own football association because we haven’t discussed it with them.
    “Quite simply there is no mechanism for this. Rangers are light years away from joining our league.”
    Any switch of leagues would require the approval of the SFA, FA, UEFA and FIFA. In England and most associations throughout Europe any new club must supply three years of audited accounts before being granted membership, in Scotland that rule does not apply.

  24. tomtomaswell says:

    jimmicks75 says:

    Saturday, January 19, 2013 at 13:24


    It’s the hotel that’s got the problem, not the club. According to Johnston a supplier is using the press to get paid.

    According to the press it’ll be because RFC are not in the league.

  25. Caveat Emptor says:

    Home early from work yesterday and flicking through the dross that is daytime telly, came across an early episode of Bergerac. For younger viewers, this was a detective series set on the island of Jersey. Anyway, among the regular cast was an English character actor called Terence Alexander who played, I believe, Bergerac’s faither-in-law, Charlie Hungerford.
    The part was cast as the ‘panto villain’, working guy made good entrepreneur, ever so slightly dodgy but can’t put your finger on it, rough diamond, nodding acquaintance with the tax man, you know the type. If you can’t recall the guy, Google should help.
    Anyone else reckon that Charlie Hungerford has had a change of surname, moved to the South Side, bought the assets of a defunct fitba team at a knock down price and is now kiddin on that he runs Scottish fitba? Would explain a lot!!

  26. gazpops says:

    Apologies all…I didn’t mean ‘credit to Hateley’…I just forgot to credit him as the ‘author’ of that dirge.

  27. ekt1m says:

    Does anyone else think that the Ceo of the Conference is correct in saying that the 3 years audited accounts rule does’nt apply in Scotland, I think it does apply, but our SFA chose not to use it in regard to Newco. Maybe the conference CEO was just being a tad sarcastic.

  28. shield2012 says:

    manandboy says:
    Saturday, January 19, 2013 at 16:54
    4 0 Rate This

    With it being quiet an’ all with the footie being on, this is just a little reminder.

    BTW, this is really just for those who follow New Rangers, people like Campbell Ogilvie and Stewart Regan and some guys in the newspaper industry, so if you’re a regular on here, you’ll find this a bit boring, so I would advise that you skip this and jump to the next comment.

    There are just over 7 billion people on the planet.

    About 6,999.950,000 of that total know that RFC is dead.

    The rest, mainly New Rangers supporters, are in a very confused state, mainly about who they are, where they are and where they’re going, and what time it is, stuff like that. And they keep getting their name wrong too. It’s a shame really.

    One more thing. They think that they are right and the other 6,999,950,000 are wrong.

    I hope this helps them get things a little clearer.

    One last time – RFC, all of it, is DEAD.

    To quote ‘gazpops’ – can we also “File this under: a bad point, badly made”

  29. Big Pink says:


    You may notice my moniker has changed from TSFM. A bit pretentious to be the eponymous blogger – and damn confusing sometimes to differentiate between the person and the blog. Truth is when PL started the blog he just copied the MO of the RTC blog. I feel like a bit of a prat when I use it.

    New post (revised version of Auldheid’s original Question of Trust). Please carry on discussion there.

  30. angus1983 says:

    ordinaryfan says:
    Saturday, January 19, 2013 at 14:02

    From now on, as a Celtic fan, I will now be adding all cheated Titles and Cups to our Trophy haul.

    From now on, as an Aberdeen fan, I will now be adding all cheated Titles and Cups to our Trophy haul.

  31. paulsatim says:

    which blog we all on, then?

  32. liveinhop says:

    im here

  33. Captain Haddock says:

    “rangers owe Scottish Football nothing”, according to mr hately. Well has he forgotten about the millions owed by the failed club to their various creditors? (including ambulance services, local authorities, police, HMRC plus other football debts which was supposed to have been paid)
    And how about some apologies that many think they owe ALL of scottish football for the financial doping and the likelihood, although not legally proven yet, but admitted by them at the FTTT, that they failed to properly deal with player registrations for more than a decade?

    Mr Hately, have you forgotten about all this?

    Maybe he thinks the new club have no connections to the old club…., that must be it.

  34. DAVAD00 says:

    Friday and Saturday just past. Two of the darkest days in the history of RTC and TSFM. Two days that could have been handled so much better. IMO. Continues to be the best Blog available.

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