Still a Battle for Survival

Apologies for the lack of activity this past few days. I had been expecting a guest blog, but it has failed to materialise thus far. I will endeavour to get that together over the next few days. In the meantine, the moderators would like to thank everyone for their cooperation in keeping some sanity in the face of the recent trolling activity. The self-policing aspect has been admirable over the last few days – as has the level of scrutiny applied to the information which has been coming in.

There have been, understandably, some comments on the blog and elsewhere about a perceived obsesssion here with Rangers and their offspring. Whilst I agree that the focus of this community should have a wider perspective, I don’t think it is obsessional to engage with the big story of the day – in fact it is neccessary that we do so.

Ultimately though TSFM’s longevity will depend on our ability to look at the wider issues, and that is at the top of our minds. We have recently been approached by some people about the possibility of our creating and publicising our own Scottish Football Financial Secrecy League in line with that created a while back for Christian Aid. That may give us some credibility as a watchdog, and utilise the expertise that many contributors have offered so freely in the past.

Right now though the new Rangers show is still headlining, and it is of interest, in the light of the impending share issue, whether the economics of running the new Rangers is really as precariously balanced as has been claimed by some of our number.

If our supsicions of Charles Green’s motives are correct, then we are bound to demonstrate why we think the share issue could be a device to either pay off Ticketus, or Green’s investors to the detriment of the fans.

If the new club’s finances are as precarious as has been stated, then it would point to the share issue being used as a cut and run exercise; but I am not at all convinced of that precariousness.

For example, I don’t accept that The Rangers are paying players an average weekly wage of even as much as £2500. I suspect that the actual figure is considerably less than that, and I hear that basic salaries for the higher quality new players is nearer the £1500 a week mark, with considerably less being offered to the younger guys. Of course performance bonuses would be added to that, but if my figure is correct, Green has a considerable amount of headroom to pay those bonuses.

On the other hand, Green will not have the sponsorship bucks, the media cash, or the prize money that old Rangers would have taken for granted, so there is a defecit there. It may also be of interest to see whether the reported figures for ST sales can be verified. I don’t think it would be churlish for Rangers fans to demand proof of that success before stumping up for a share or two, but one would have to say that reported high figures may well influence an investment decision – and in spite of those impressive numbers (35,000 STs sold) private investors still remain in hiding. It is at times like these that Adam would be an invaluable asset, bringing as he did an alternative and forensic accounting perspective to the somewhat wishful thinking of our non-Rangers tendency 🙂

If the success of Charles Green’s project is determined solely by how much money he makes, then it is in the interest of Rangers fans that any plans to line his own pockets via a share issue (if that is really his intention) are exposed. If Green’s accusers are correct (and let’s not forget that Rangers diehards like John Brown are among their number), then we would have to assume that his biggest success yet has been to get the bears onside, buying imprssively high numbers of STs, after the initial hostility he faced.

Rangers fans who have involved themsleves in critical thinking over the matter will know that some serious damage to the new club will be the result if Green is allowed to pull off any such scam, but they will also know that if he is genuinely invested in the well-being of the club, he is probably their best hope.

That is the dilemma they face.

All talk of stripping titles and history is a red-herring. The real problem for new Rangers is not lost titles or trophy notches on an Ibrox crossbar. It is, as it has been all summer long for old Rangers, survival.

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455 Responses to Still a Battle for Survival

  1. chancer67 says:

    Charlie is trying to get Celtic to bite (I hope they keep shtum for now) because he knows what is coming,the true fans of oldco know what he is up to and what we are witnessing at Ibrox is mass hysteria and denial that the club is gone.

    The Rangers fansites are full of fans who admit they are attending Ibrox for the first time in years some as many as 20 years, so what has happened to the fans who are no longer going ?

    Decent Rangers fans the ones with disposable income that Charlie is after wont be fooled by his call to arms of the rabble rousers, and the bigots wont be able to afford the share option so this is looking like a last hurrah from Charlie.
    The sooner this despot is put in his place and chased down the road the better Scottish football will be for it.

  2. adamate12 says:

    I think they are using the Lance Armstrong Defence – when you realise you are about to be found guilty make a quick exit protesting your innocence.

  3. Paulsatim says:

    Mr McG ‏@weegie67
    Debt? We’re Newco. Titles? We’re Oldco. Punishment? We’re Newco. History? We’re Oldco. EBTs? Newco. SFA Licence? Oldco. #TheRangersWaltz

  4. campsiejoe says:

    I have long been of the opinion, that the SFA/SPL have been aware of the dual contracts, and were quite happy to turn a blind eye to the problem as long as Murray was at the helm
    All of that changed when the MBB appeared, and helped RFC into administration

    I am sure that this event never entered the Stooges thinking when they were turning their blind eye, nor did they think the FTT posed any problem to the comfortable status quo
    Charlie has dirt to dish, and by the sounds of that statement he is prepared to dish it

    So all of the scheming, rule breaking and bending, could be about to unravel, and no matter what happens, the SFA/SPL are going to be totally discredited
    Give in and they will be shown to be incompetent, gutless cowards
    Stand up to him and they will be exposed as the corrupt organisations we all suspect them to be
    Either way we are at a watershed

  5. SBhoy says:

    Celtic Football Club…..Haud yer weesht…

    IMO CFC are doing the right thing, Mr Lawwell and Co. will obviously be / have been monitoring the situation very closely, for the last 12 – 18 months.( Or longer?) I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that the SSM and his administrators, will have been and will continue to be notifying / updating the relevant bodies within their own association (SPL,SFA) of their concerns, with a CC at the bottom to the relevant world body (FIFA).

    Celtic have nothing to fear in the demise of sevco Scotland (barring some financials, which they will overcome) but have much moral high ground to claim, and rightly so, as they are managed professionally, and with Integrity.

    Celtic, The Football Club, which includes the vast majority of their fanbase, are among the most respected Clubs participating on the European / World stage, they have proven this time and time again, year after year.

    At times like this, I am proud to be a Celtic fan, and have every confidence in the Clubs Board of Directors.

    I do not wish to end this post on a negative note, but CG, and those before him < CW < (s)DM < and all of their cohorts, have, for various reasons, fame and financial gain, made a mockery of the Scottish game!!

    End it Now Please, eradicate this once great institution to the annals of history.

  6. longtimelurker says:

    Pretty obvious, to me at least, that there has been government interference in this fiasco.

    The clubs and the football authorities have quiet clearly been told that they have no say in this matter, why else would the entire football establishment in this country, with the exception of one or two principled individuals and clubs who refused to be silenced such as TH and Clyde FC, make no public statements in relation to the public utterances of Green, Jardine and McCoist?

    Make no mistake, professional football in this country has been compromised by the actions of The State.

    I can never recall any other club or club official making these sorts of inflammatory statements without official comment from the football authorities.

    We are crossing the Rubicon guys.

    And surely the silence from the clubs and the authorities tells you that something massive has gone on, as people have said on both here and on RTC you have to focus on what people are not saying not what they are saying and in this respect the silence tells you all that you really have to know.

    Frankly I am ashamed of Scottish football, it is a complete sham.

  7. CrazyHorse says:

    Charles Le Vert est fou comme une boîte des grenouilles!

  8. Sugar Daddy says:

    CG adopting the Lance Armstrong defence by refusing to take part.

    Unfortunately, dual contract players won titles in the SPL so entirely appropriate they investigate.

    How does he keep track of what days/investigations/meetings when he is Rangers and when he is not Rangers?

    The icing on the cake will be when he presents the share issue. What journalist will ask the question whether fans are buying into the club or company?

    its been quiet for a few weeks but this farce is entering a new phase. What with the FTT around the corner, dual contracts investigation underway and best of all reports that Rangers fans are hiding Downfall in book shops.

    The Rangers are about to plumb new depths.

  9. gie's a gonk says:

    Re the stripping of titles if Original Gers are found guilty it’s really quite simple.

    The Eeh Bah Gummi Bears claim to have bought 54 league titles from Oldco, as well as assorted cups. That’s fine but if it’s proven that oldco won some of them outwith the rules then they’ve actually been stolen from the rightful winners and oldco had no legal right to claim ownership. So sorry Charlie but although you may have purchased them from D&P in good faith it turns out they’re stolen property and like anyone who has found out they’ve unwittingly bought stolen goods you have to give them back.

    You could of course then take D&P to court to sue them for the purchase price for any stolen trophies but good luck with that claim

  10. Ranchofranco says:

    It’s patently obvious that Minty with the connivance of the SFA has engineered this whole farce.
    Whyte was clearly instructed to set in the motion the series of ‘unfortunate’ fiscal events that would enable the charade of a D&P administration to ‘tidy’ up the paperwork in the hope of a successful CVA that would allow the debt to be dumped whilst the History and the valuable human capital remained intact and playing in the lucrative SPL/CL competitions whilst their cheerleaders in the despicable Scottish sports press enraptured of the mighty Gers would go into full blown deflective overdrive to salute the genius of such a cunning plan by one or other within the hokey cokey rainbow consortiums of ‘Knights’ who came up trumps.
    Well,HMRC and the Bampots managed to head that off at the pass for a week or so until Minty had fully appraised the lurking wolverine Green of plan ‘B’ and set him about the SFA hen house he had corruptedly controlled so assiduously and for so long that they surrendered all pretence of legislative authority to the demands of the baying hordes at Ibrox.
    By sheer force of twisted logic and by real threats of violence, an abhorrent, delinquent club that should have legitimately been declared dead and buried weeks ago continues in it’s shambling zombie state to issue menacing proclamations that undermine the whole fabric of a decent society.
    From book banning intimidation to refusal to accept either consequences or punishments for their sordid fiscal and sporting misdeeds the spiritual heart of the Sevcovian has been laid bare for all to see.This state of impunity is a consequence of the debauchery that Murray the megalomaniac imposed upon all the vested interests whose remit should only have been concerned with the upholding of good governance for all, not the wilfully corrupt protection at any cost for one reprobate club.

  11. longtimelurker says:

    paul martin says:
    September 10, 2012 at 21:02
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    adamate12 says:

    September 10, 2012 at 20:57

    I understand now – CG has only bought the good history! And to suggest the fact that the scam didn’t work every year that therefore it wasn’t really a scam is a joke

    i am told mr traynor repeated this on air this evening.
    unbelievable degree of stupity from the bold james.
    even for him.

    ************************************************************************************************

    The implication being that in those years they never cheated enough.

    Stupid is as stupid does.

    As many of the more erudite posters on here keep saying.

    ‘Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.’

    Mark Twain.

  12. Charlie says:

    In another context is acquiring someone’s history not called Identity fraud and you go to the pokey for that?

  13. kells says:

    Not sure if i missed the point but should it not be the SFA who deal with the dual contracts issue as they are the governing body or would that be to close to the heart of the corruption

  14. Para Handy says:

    smallteaser says:
    September 10, 2012 at 20:36
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    Auldheid says:
    September 10, 2012 at 20:27

    I think Celtic are holding there counsel, publicly because it would cost them fans.
    No matter what statement they come out with, they along with every other club in Scotland, are complicit in this.
    From the attempt to get them into the SPL, to the refusal by the SFL for a vote of no confidence, they are all complicit.
    Chickens are coming home to roost and we have all been done over “for the good of Scottish football” of course
    ————————-

    As soon as one rule was broken to allow a new club to enter the SFL, all where complicit. Even those who garnered much support on here, the Clyde BoD and Turnbull Hutton as examples, have gone from being outspoken and defiant to complicit in a stitch up which would make banking heads proud.

    If you wanted any proof that, “In order for evil to flourish, all that is required is for good men to do nothing.” Look no further than this.

    The entirety of Scottish football is to blame. The larger and more influential the entity choosing to stay silent in this, the more blame can be apportioned. “Arguments” such as, “Had we said anything the press would have pilloried us.” are specious and easily dismissed.

    Given the perfect storm of this debacle, a double dip recession, a national team that, even were it not governed by an apparently morally bankrupt organisation, continues to promise nothing and deliver exactly that, a MSM which is in terminal decline and sporting alternatives being brought into everyone’s front room by the Olympics, I cannot see Scottish football ever recovering.

    Within the next ten years, many clubs will cease to exist as anything other than part timers, a shell of their former selves.

    A terrible state of affairs but one brought upon Scottish football by the silence of the lambs.

  15. Ordinary Fan says:

    Charles Green is more than likely not allowed to be at the hearing. He just can’t come out and say “Of course we will not be at the hearing because we are not RFC, this nothing to do with us, we are just a mere tribute act.”
    Also the SFA and MSM are too terrified to contradict Green, so whatever he says becomes truth.

  16. longtimelurker says:

    Ordinary Fan says:
    September 10, 2012 at 21:43
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    Charles Green is more than likely not allowed to be at the hearing. He just can’t come out and say “Of course we will not be at the hearing because we are not RFC, this nothing to do with us, we are just a mere tribute act.”
    Also the SFA and MSM are too terrified to contradict Green, so whatever he says becomes truth.

    *********************************************************************************************************

    ‘You can fool all of the people…’

  17. SBhoy says:

    gie’s a gonk says:

    September 10, 2012 at 21:28
    _____________________________

    To be fair g a g, he did only pay a single shiny quid for the history?

    Geez, I’ll give it back to him

  18. TheBlackKnight TBK says:

    Me thinks the laddie doth protest too much…… But why?

    😉

  19. Delbhoy says:

    ” Further to our earlier statement:
    Not only will St. Mirrenoff ( P&D League ) not be attending the S.P.L. meeting tomorrow,
    every one of us denies having sex with David Becham. And Katherine Jenkins.
    Our lawyers have been informed “.

  20. Auldheid says:

    campsiejoe says:

    September 10, 2012 at 20:53

    Yup. You know me – infinite patience produces immediate results.

  21. dunloytim says:

    I really hope that the sniveling coward that is the ceo of the spl tonight fetches his spine from whatever cold storage unit he left it in.Absolutley disgusting that this cretin Green has now proved beyond any shadow of doubt who is running our game.
    Doncaster and Regan were warned that leniency would be seen as weakness and dead club and it’s supporters would take full advantage of that cowardice and weakness.Somebody joked[i think it was a joke]to call the police but this should happen as he is winding up a support who are more than willing to act on his rant’s

  22. longtimelurker says:

    Surely Harper McLeod must be studying this latest statement by Green with interest as he (CG) has called H M’s integrity into question?

    “Furthermore, as a Club we are not satisfied that the issue of conflict of interest relating to advisers to the SPL has been satisfactorily dealt with.”

    Any solicitors on here care to comment?

  23. Good Evening,

    Somebody somewhere once said that September would be an interesting month……………..

    Charles Hardin Holley ( with an e ) was born in Lubbock Texas on September 7th 1936.. so just a few days ago would have been his 76th Birthday. Of course by the time he tragically died in a plane crash ( with J.P. “The Big Bopper” Richardson and Richie Valens ) on 3rd February 1959 the world knew him as simply Buddy Holly.

    The change of name came about because his family simply referred to him as “Buddy”, and when Decca records signed him and his band up to their label in 1955 they misspelled his name as “Holly”— with the reult that the world got Buddy Holly — although in truth he was still Charles Hardin Holley.

    It just goes to show you that you can actually have two legal names at once and still be the same person.

    Today, in an astonishing statement, Mr Charles Green of The Rangers Football Club issued a statement where he mirrored Buddy Holly— he seeks to persuade the world that his company can have one name but be two legal people!

    We are Rangers… We are Not Rangers…. yes we are Rangers…. just not the Rangers with the debts… we are The Rangers who are debt free. We are not part of the SPL, but we own the titles that the SPL awarded to someone else entirely who were called…… well Rangers…… and if the SPL, who issued those titles, in any way decide to take those titles away from that other somebody who is or was called Rangers…. then we will not be giving them up because they belong to us…. The Rangers…….and we will not be going to any legal hearings about this issue……. but if there is a decision which we don’t like then we will be appealing to the courts against the decision which we were not party to and which may well have not been against us at all but against that other Rangers… because……. well…… just because……ok?

    Mr Green’s statement today is one of the strangest statements I have ever seen given that it is supposedly made after he had taken extensive legal advice.

    Let’s just look at some of what he said today:

    “The club ceased to be subject to the SPL’s rules when it was ejected from its league,” he said.

    “Our lawyers have made that point repeatedly to the SPL in correspondence and yet our requests for an explanation from the SPL have been completely ignored. The SPL’s silence on these issues is deafening.

    “The outcome of the SPL’s process will have no legal effect.”

    He goes on:

    “”To make it crystal clear, the new owners purchased all the business and assets of Rangers, including titles and trophies.

    “Any attempt to undermine or diminish the value of those assets will be met with the stiffest resistance, including legal recourse.”

    and

    “As far as I am concerned, Rangers Football Club has won a world record 54 league titles, and, whatever the decision of the SPL commission, these titles cannot and will not be taken away from us and our Manager Ally McCoist is in total agreement.”

    Quite separately Mr Green berates the five way agreement, seemingly implying that the agreement includes some kind of deal on EBT’s and the relevant sanctions:

    “”What compounds the breathtaking hypocrisy of the SPL in this whole saga, is that the SFA, the SPL and us – as the new owners – took part in numerous discussions regarding the new company’s league status during which it was made clear that a deal was there to be done where ‘the EBT issue’ would be dealt with as part of a package of sanctions which would be implemented in return for membership of the SFA and a place in either the SPL or Division One.

    “We do not accept that people who are willing to come to an agreement on such matters then have a right to instigate a full blown inquisition when matters do not unfold as they thought they would.

    “In our view, it beggars belief that an authority which can be heavily involved in these discussions to the point that the chief executive Neil Doncaster repeatedly stated he was not interested in stripping titles from Rangers can lurch from that position to setting up its own commission under the chairmanship of Lord Nimmo Smith.”

    Now follow me if you will:

    Imagine you buy a watch from a man selling watches from a tray in a street market. You have paid the price, and you have the watch. Then imagine the police come to the door and let you know that the man had stolen the watch, that it was not legally his to sell and so they demand that you hand the watch over to them for return to the rightful owner.

    Well it would appear that if you are Mr Green you will refuse to hand it over and go to court. yet you cannot obtain a good title from someone who does not have a good title to give in the first place.

    Further, imagine that when you buy the watch from the man in the street, you already know that he is under investigation for obtainig watches illegally. You can’t even argue that you have been duped in that case because you already know that any title proffered by the seller may well be flawed.

    That is where Charles Green stands with regard to the question of titles.

    Except that it is even worse than that– because the hearing starting tomorrow is an investigation into matters which took place before his company even existed, and concerns the winning of competitions by a team called Rangers who the Governing body presumed at the time had acted within the rules.

    It now appears that there is every possibility that at the material time, the team called Rangers did not act within the rules at all and so the SPL, as the governing body and the perpetual proprietors of the SPL title must act within the Rules of football and review the results.

    Now, if Charles Green is the owner of the same club that participated in those championships, then he is undoubtedly under the jurisdiction of the SPL– because what the panel is investigating is the conduct of Rangers in the relevant seasons, and saying that they have no jurisdiction because Green’s Rangers are in SFL 3 is a really very poor legal argument.

    If the SPL were investigating season 2011-2012 would Dunfermiline not be subject to the SPL jurisdiction because they had been relegated?

    That makes no sense.

    Further, in referring to the titles as “Their titles” and talking about resisting their being stripped of the same titles– Green shows no clear understanding of the law– a law that is very clear and very simple.

    First– the title belongs to the SPL. In any one year, the SPL award that title to the team that amasses the most points over the football year— provided they play within the rules!!!

    Forget who Rangers are, might be, could be, should be or were— If the team called Rangers did not comply with the rules, and actually broke the rules– with the result that all results that were so obtained have to be reversed and replaced with a 0-3 scoreline—- then the simple fact is that no team called Rangers won anything– and any ward of a title to anyone using that name under such circumstances is totally and legally invalid!

    Further, as the owner of the SPL title is in fact the SPL, then that same SPL has every legal right to withdraw its award of Champions to any team — it it can be shown that the award was gained by way of illegal actions on the part of that team or a false pretence being made by that team or its management.

    The titles do not belong to “Rangers”– they were supposedly won by “Rangers”— but if they broke the rules– then they weren’t won at all.

    It really is that simple.

    The statement today shows that Mr Green has no real undertanding of the law— or that he is simply choosing to ignore the law and running away from it.

    He can’t afford to go to any Tribunal and have a high court judge declare that Rangers the original club are dead– and he and others can’t afford to go to the court and answer questions about EBT’s, payments, dual contracts or anything else.

    In short, what the days statement confirms is that you can run but you cannot hide from the law.

    You can make all sorts of public proclamations, and even have the papers print them as if they were gospel, but the fact remains that when the facts and circumstances are placed before any court or tribunal, a legal ruling will ensue and it is likely that any such ruling will not be to the liking of Mr Green, Mr Whyte or Mr Murray.

    Perhaps Mr Green’s legal team have already been told that they will have no right of audience at tomorrow’s hearing– as after all his company was not a party to any of the contracts under discussion and they were not registered with the SFA or SPL at the relevant time.

    Obviously Mr Green would not want the potential share buying public to hear that.

    No– Mr Green’s statement was made after he took some legal advice– and that advice told him he was behind the eight ball without a cue.

    Perhaps he should heed the advice of Mr Sonny Curtis…………… Sonny Who?

    Well following Buddy Holly’s death, Sonny Curtis– a lifelong friend of Holly’s— took his place with the Crickets, taking lead vocal and playing lead guitar.

    A year after Buddy’s death, the band released their first album without him, and called it “In style with the Crickets”.

    Mr Green should note that they were no longer Buddy Holly and the Crickets,…….. just the crickets. Similar…. but just not the same.

    He should also note that on that album was a Sonny Curtis penned composition which would later be recorded by Bobby Fuller, The Clash, The Dead Kennedys, Bryan Adams, John Cougar Mellencamp, Bruce Springsteen, Roy Orbison, Tom Petty, Social Distortion, Mike Ness, Hank Williams Jr, Waylon Jennings, the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, Green Day, The Ramones, Grateful Dead, Stray Cats, Mary’s Danish, Mano Negra, the Big Dirty Band, Lolita No. 18, The Brian Jonestown Massacre, Attaque 77, Die Toten Hosen, Status Quo, Nanci Griffith, and The Men They Couldn’t Hang.

    They all had their own reasons for recording the song and sending out its core message;

    I fought the law… and the law won!

  24. HirsutePursuit says:

    One of the benefits of having three highly qualified legal brains behind the duel-contract investigation is that the legal parameters would be set, such that:
    1. The Rangers Football Club Ltd are on outsiders. They have no legal connection with the actions of The Rangers Football Club plc and therefore, as a club, have no part to play in proceedings.
    2. The Rangers Football Club plc are also on the outside. No longer a member of the SFA nor operating as a football club nor holding any information that could help, the administrators of the former club could be of no assistance to the enquiry.

    The enquiry can look at information already in possession of the SPL; but they could never insist on co-operation from the new club. If D&P have “forgotten” to include some critical details – why should Sevco’s Rangers help out?

    Charles Green’s statement today simply pre-empts the enquiry in stating that this has no lawful relevance to his club. No punishment can legally be meted out to his club for the misdeeds of another.

    D&P’s statement states the obvious – that they have no interest nor capacity to help the enquiry.

    Nothing today will make any difference to how the enquiry would have progressed.

    However…

    Our primary role as Administrators was to rescue the business which has been achieved by Charles Green and his consortium…

    http://www.rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/item/2106-administrators-statement
    …will be read with much interest by BDO, the IPA and quite possibly by Lord Hodge.

    The administrators have three statutory duties. None of those statutory obligations is saving the “business”.

    If this is genuinely what they said, then they may well have signed their own warrant.

  25. Partizan says:

    There is a new blog post up. Suggest BRTH you post again there.

  26. posmill says:

    The governing bodies do everything they can to get you fast tracked into the top flight. It doesn’t work due to massive fan backlash.

    Same governing bodies speak of imminent league restructuring – which would get you fast tracked into the top flight – but the public’s having none of that either.

    So how do you treat these governing bodies which have done everything they can (including not doing much that they should have) to get you fast tracked into the top flight?

    You ridicule them. You taunt them. You undermine their already-low credibility to the extent that their continued operation is virtually untenable.

    And yet the governing bodies do nothing.

    So the governing structure of Scottish football collapses, along with the existing league system.

    A new governing body is formed, with a whole new league structure, and (wouldn’t you know it!) you get fast-tracked into the top flight.

    Ta-daa!

  27. Paulsatim says:

    Guys, there’s a new blog, https://scottishfootballmonitor.wordpress.com/2012/09/10/charkes-green-we-stand-united-in-saying-no-more-what-will-footballs-authorities-do/

  28. Angus says:

    BRTH – wondered where the Buddy Holly thing was heading for a while there. Nice little story arc. 🙂

    As said above, an important and lucid post which should be reposted on the new blog entry – too many will miss it otherwise.

  29. aldo67 says:

    BRTH> awesome stuff.your conscious stream must be worth millions.
    tomorrow ( today ) is end game.let the people sing.
    the dog whistle has been whetted by green et al.
    time for the vet to be called to put to sleep.

  30. john clarke says:

    I have been trying to read up in the SFA’s articles of association, the SPL’s articles, and the Judicial Panel Protocol.

    The Judicial panel is the creation of the SFA.
    The Compliance Officer is a creation of the SFA.
    There is no scope ( it seems to me) for the SPL to lay charges.

    The Compliance Officer would be the one to do that, on a reference from the SPL, perhaps.

    But the charges would be against Sevco/Rangers AS members of the SFA, not as members of the SPL.

    So Charlie boy is, perhaps, technically right , when he argues that the SPL have no jurisdiction, no power to bring charges against a non-SPL member.

    But that is irrelevant, because the SFA do have jurisdiction!

    Even if it was some daft bugger in the SPL who brought the charges , then that can quickly be rectified by Vincent Lunny swiftly taking ownership of the charge sheet on behalf of the SFA, since Sevco/Rangers are ( however illicitly) members of the SFA ,and are required to accept its jurisdiction, under penalty if they fail to do so, and it was SFA articles that were (allegedly) breached….

    Likewise, the SFA can approach the Court to seek to compel D&P, as officers of the Court, to release documents etc that relate to the past actions of the directors of the club that are material to the circumstances that led to the club’s insolvency .

    I don’t know who CG uses as lawyers, but I don’t think their advice is terribly sound.

  31. john clarke says:

    Got my Koala back, I see. He thanks Essex beancounter, but tells me the guy actually counted out the eight beans he gave him, and him starving! 🙂

  32. midcalderan says:

    Tour of TRanger’s trophy room:

    Guide: “These are the trophies Mr Green’s company purchased”

    Tourist: “Where are the trophies you won?”

    Guide: “We’ve not won anything yet”

    Tourist: “Can I get my money back. I feel I’ve been mislead?”

  33. Agrajag says:

    “Our primary role as Administrators was to rescue the business which has been achieved by Charles Green and his consortium…”

    That is a lie.

    When the CVA failed their primary role was to achieve the best result for the creditors.

    The reality is they were never concerned about the creditors and it was always about the business. That is why they made the acceptance of the CVA offer and the sale of the assets effectively the same deal. They sold the assets to the Green consortium before the CVA was even voted on.

    A conflict of interests from the outset. Right back to the Craig Whyte emails which Mark Daly showed on the BBC.

  34. Senior says:

    ‘Regarding this quote from Charles Green’s statement:
    “The decision we have taken has not been taken lightly. There are powerful representatives from Clubs within the SPL – not all of them by any means – who appear hell bent on inflicting as much damage on Rangers as possible’

    Mr Green has, by his recklessness, placed all representatives of clubs in the SPL in a very serious and dangerous position. Surely, if for no other reason they will react to safeguard themselves and their clubs – or have we lost all sense of reality.

  35. Creepylurker says:

    Playing devils advocate here so bare with me.
    Lets say CG did in fact buy the trophys Of old rangers and it was all above board, surley all that means is he has bought rights to display a trophy museum of the old gers. Any league or cup wins by The Rangers can’t be merged with it and would be thier first ever trophy, right?

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